“I get that Jason Todd is cool as Red Hood, but I hate when people say he’s their favorite Robin because 9 time out of 10 they never read the character when he was the Boy Wonder. He was a little prick, and not in the fun way like Damian Wayne.”
There is a reason why people voted to kill him off back in the day. My personal feelings is that it was very wrong, (A Death In The Family) but yes, Jason was an awful little brat, but the biggest flaw was the fact they never really developed a personality for him back then.
I can imagine reading “another Robin” or “Robin Mark II” who is only a few steps away from the “Real Robin” (who was now another character in a separate [better selling] comic series in his own right,) but with the added annoyance of being occasionally bratty, might have irritated after a while. Perhaps back then, if I had been older than two and been able to read comics, I may have voted in the stronger direction.
Yes, as an adult and antagonist, Jason is a lot of fun. I think being a zombie, being put in a Lazarus Pit and practically raised as an al Ghul made his character improve vastly.
I’m only sorry that they keep giving Jason Dick’s hand-me-downs (clothing, friends, storylines…seriously. Quit it.) instead of creating an actual story arc for him.
Can people knock it off with this. Stop making this out like nobody liked him because of the call in vote. He “lost” by a very slim margin and if the vote hadn’t been rigged he would’ve lived. Plus, the numbers do not actually reflect how people liked Jason.
1). Children were restricted in their votes because the phones charged a premium.
2) Plenty of people didn’t like the concept of Robin in general and would’ve happily voted for death had Dick been in his place.
3)There was a bias against him because he wasn’t Dick and not for his actual personality traits.
4) Some voters just thought it would be and interesting story.
Why do people have this stupid idea that nobody liked him during his original run as Robin despite the fact that his resurrection was orchestrated by a man who liked him during his original run as Robin.
Don’t give me this “bad Robin” crap, it’s revisionist bullshit. I actually read him as Robin before I read the post-resurrection stuff. He wasn’t a brat. Not even remotely. He was brave and sweet and took the plight of the people he was trying to help very personally. Even after the oppressive traumatic environment he grew up in, he still cared about people and was ready to protect them with his life. He fucking died trying to save his mother who abandoned him and willingly let the Joker beat him almost to death to save her own skin. What a little prick though, huh?
I MEAN LOOK AT THIS ASSHOLE
HE REALLY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT ANYONE ELSE
GOD HE’S SUCH A JERK
WHO THE FUCK DOES THIS KID THINK HE IS
NOT AT ALL CHARMING OR FUN LIKE DAMIAN
I hereby retract any affection I ever had for this fuckstick. What a little prick. :’)
[But seriously, the vast majority of people who refer to Jason as a “prick” or a “little snot” are just parroting the revisionist interviews given by industry people as to why they offed Jason and haven’t actually read his Batman run. Which makes this confession all the more hilarious to me.]
While it’s definitely true that the writer was majorly at fault (seeing as he didn’t like the idea of ROBIN and was purposefully trying to write Jason as “unlikeable”), why is NOBODY bringing up the fact that the only reason Jason was voted dead was because somebody CHEATED and rigged their phone to dial the “kill” number every 90 seconds? Jason only died by a slim margin of 65 votes, so to say he was UNPOPULAR is actually extremely uneducated. Most people were appalled by Jason’s death and the writer was black balled for it.
Everything else aside, this confession is just WRONG. Every single person I know in my side of the fandom that loves Jason, loves him in a very EDUCATED fashion or are very willing to learn. While yes, I have encountered sides of the fandom that aren’t as knowledgeable and park themselves more in fanon (which is fine too! there’s no wrong way to enjoy yourself or your fandom) to say 9 out of 10 is grossly inaccurate and most of these people you’re slamming can talk CIRCLES around every single one of you.
I am sorry to say my terminology of brat might have been taken out of context. I meant it in the same way as Carter Hall jibes Dick with the term; and how it’s used for Damian i.e affectionately. Jason wasn’t “bad” at all. He was just deliberately made so for an editorial decision. Just like Talia al Ghul has been through the wringer lately just for storyline purposes.
(Manipulative and power hungry she may be, but not this black widow she’s been turned into in the past decade.)
While now Jason characterization has been tended too and correct, Jason is now suffering from “Lobdell Fanboy Syndrome” and his character has to go through terrible things once again.
As I mentioned before, Jason belongs firmly in the basket of legacy characters that have not been treated well at all by DC.
People got a hold of an un-edited post once again; and now it’s everywhere being taken out of context again and reposted and…
(It’s this post about Jason Todd by the way. Please stop and read the actual post before you tear me a new one…again…like the last time…)
Red Hood and the Outlaws
↳ Penciled by Kenneth Rocafort
An appreciation post for a few of the many snippets they say about each other.
Arse in Arsenal? Humanity hide from Princess “Kori”? Jason…no comment. (In my opinion, like a fox.)
But still…meh…stupid reboot…
“We just wanted to remind you that even though you lost one family…”
“… I gained another. Thanks, you guys. I couldn’t ask for a better safety net…”
Excuse me, I’ll just be over here sobbing forever over my classic Titans feels, okay. ;__;
These will always be my Teen Titans. It’s not that I don’t think the later members or the subsequent line-ups are awesome, because they are and I can enjoy them and it’s actually very important to me to see these legacies move forward (because very often trying to recapture the past by invalidating more recent history is exactly what leads DC into trouble). But when you say “Teen Titans” to me… these are the guys I’ll think of. There was something beautiful and unique between them, and you just can’t beat that history in my book.
And I just really, really miss the relationships Dick had with these characters. Remember when Dick actually used to have friends? Good times, guys. Good times.
On a lighter note, it makes me laugh that at least half of these look really inappropriately shippy. ROFL, Dick. I almost used a picture of Joey and Dick where they were hugging half-naked, but I thought that would just be a bit much.
Also, I would like it to be known that that picture of Dick and Raven is not anything that happened as a result of mind-control, because I would never use that as a way of celebrating their friendship. He’s just giving her a friendly kiss on the cheek of his own volition. And it just looks inappropriately shippy because… it does. Dammit, Dick. Stop being such a Ship Launcher, you.
Remember when Dick actually used to have friends?
Barry/DC you monsters!