Finally finished this piece!
-UGH I NEEDED TO REDO BAB’S CAPE! NEW UPDATE
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Since most of these characters all had their own personal histories with Helena Bertinelli, reblogging this won’t be too far off-topic.
Looking at this picture just induces mixed feelings inside me.
While I miss Helena Bertinelli greatly, this also reinforces why I’m somewhat glad that Helena isn’t alive in the current DC Universe, for fear that she would be subjected to even more bad writing, and ruined beyond comprehension.
And yet at the same time, I can’t help but feel an erstwhile sadness, because the retconning of the origins of the Robins means that whatever respective ties they’ve had with Helena are now no longer in existence.
Gone are the moments when Tim went out of his way to stick-up for Helena, when it would have just been easier to go with the majority consensus. Gone is the great team-up that Helena had with Steph, and how she once rushed head first into battle to help save Damian. Not to mention her relationship with Dick Grayson is most likely not in continuity either.
Overall, it just feels like being kicked while you’re down. And the ‘reboot’ is the one wearing the proverbial boots.*
Then again, if the alternative is for her to be written by the likes of Lobdell, or Paul Levitz, or any of the other writers currently producing subpar content, then I say she’s safer missing in action. And this will also be the part where I lament in nostalgia for what we had one year ago, before everything was
ruinedchanged for the sake of a temporary sales increase.And on a final note, I’m just amused ‘Lobdell’d’ has now become a past tense verb. I foresee myself using it quite often.
*Pun may or may not be intended.
I start to think maybe they’ll figure this all out then I remember this guy:
How does only one part of each of their origins make sense? How?! …Well, to be honest Tim’s and Jason’s don’t make any bloody sense at all.
Panic mode engaged.
One of the frustrating things about the reboot that DC a year ago was the seemingly hurly burly way that they communicated what was in continuity and what wasn’t. Depending on who you listened to, for example, the Teen Titans has existed as they had in the pre-Flashpoint DCU or that the Perez era would no longer exist. Some stories were considered in continuity, such as Identity Crisis, but some of the characters (such as Connor Hawke) did not.
With a year under their belt DC has begun to document the history of their characters in this month’s Zero issues with “Who’s Who” entries. And while it does give some insight into “what stayed” it also shows that there may still be some of “yeah we’re still figuring it out.”
Let’s start with the background of Jim Gordon. Prior to the new 52 Scott Snyder wrote the incredibly good Black Mirror arc which brought back Gordon’s son James, Jr. and slowly revealed him to be a sadistic killer. James has been seen in the new 52 and Snyder has said that the background he wrote for the character is intact. And now we see that in Gordon’s biography:
His daughter Barbara defends Gotham as the costumed vigilante Batgirl, and his son James Jr. is a deeply troubled psychopath and murderer. Even after facing the trauma of his son’s current state and Barbara’s being shot by the Joker, Commissioner Gordon has persevered and continues to be one of Gotham’s true leaders.
Well at least the murderer part. Not sure the other parts of the story are still around. I would hope that Barbara would be a little more concerned about him given what happened in the climax of that story. But I’ll be interested to learn more.
The Green Arrow entry is interesting as well. Ollie has been considerably deaged in the new 52, at one point he was described as his early 20s, which was used as the reason that Connor Hawke no longer existed. But Roy Harper, Ollie’s young protege, has been there since the new 52 existed. How does Roy fit into that history?
Green Arrow is also no stranger to the rest of the DC Universe, although as his relationship with Roy Harper, AKA Arsenal, has yet to be fully explained and his repeated attempts to join the Justice League have so far failed.
Fully explained or explained at all? Anyone know?
Each of the entries ends with questions that could, possibly, make one speculate.
For example, this one from Earth 2 in regards to characters moving from one Earth to another and name checking Mr. Terrific, Power Girl and Huntress, we see this:
Have other mystery characters made this journey?
I am going to guess … yes.
In the next week’s other 0 issues debut and it will be interesting to see if these character “Who’s who” give us any new light on some other history:
Will Batgirl’s mention anything about Barbara Gordon being Oracle?
Will the entries for Batman and Robin and Batman give us any updated details on the history of the Robins, Red Robins and Robins who probably never existed anymore?
Will the Birds of Prey clarify whether whether the group existed in a format as it did before and what is the relationship between Batgirl and Black Canary?
Will Catwoman shed any light on her history with Batman or whether her history from Batman Year One still exists?
What questions about the new 52 would you like see answered in these “Who’s Who?”
Excuse me a moment.
What about my New Teen Titan babies, DC? What about my Robins? What?
Shit Robin Fans Say.
“Haha… they’re trying to tell me Tim’s straight.”
The dude tried to clone his “best friend” over 100 times.
I almost get a little angry whenever DC tries to pair him with another girl character.
He’s a dude who is in love with his best friend. What’s so wrong with that?
Also, the Jason parts are all true for me.
Superhero husband!…ah…yeah…
All this.
(via justbeingkawaii)
A Gotham City Christmas by Dan Sadaba
Dick: “Is this my best side, Donna? Or is this?…could you do this photo as a lenticular so I don’t have to choose?”
Tim: “Hey Damian, don’t you look adorable.”
Damian: ”-tt- Cram it Drake, or I’ll tell Grayson that you still sleep with the Robin uniform he gave you two Christmases ago tucked under your pillow.”
Dick: “You do? Aww Timmy…”
Tim: “You do realise you just made your threat now redundant, Damian?”
Damian: “I do. And it was surprisingly both amusing and worth it.”
Jason: “Hey guys! Look I came wearing my old Robin mask…actually it was your Robin mask, wasn’t it Dickie-bird? I got all your old hand-me-downs, and still do. Although instead of clothes it’s now friends… “
Dick: “What? Oh yeah you bastard! How dare you steal my best friend?”
Jason: “I thought Dan Didio did that?”
Dick: “Yeah, well Roy was one of my best friends as well. You stole him and now I have no best bros!
Damian: “Oh Fuck,Todd, now you made Grayson cry. Aren’t you just a gift to humanity? Why don’t you go—”
Jason: “Would, but your mother already took the liberty.”
[Damian knocks Tim out of the way]
Damian: “You’re going to die again Todd. But this time it’s going to be a lot more painful!”
Jason: “But I haven’t even got to the part where I tell Dick I also got jiggy with his ex-alien girlfriend…”
Dick: “What? Oh no, no, HELL NO!”
Donna: [heavy sigh] “I’m glad I nabbed that photo while they were all still blabbering…”
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Tis the day to spread Robin-Christmas wishes.
(And get a little carried away.)
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everyone!
(And remember to keep your best friends in a safe place or the “Didio who stole the New Earth canon” might make it that they never existed…
Keeping in with the family theme, a time-paradox Bat-family. (Jason’s:”Why are they looking at us like that? [I’ll cut them]” Oh my God, Damian setting Jason’s cape on fire and Tim’s: “I won’t tell if you dont.” ! Too awesome.)
Alfred’s turban-towel and Batman symbol robe for the win! [Tiny Titans #13]
Also Tiny Titans:
Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel. (I know the feeling, so much Bat-stuff to post!)
![A Gotham City Christmas by Dan Sadaba
Dick: “Is this my best side, Donna? Or is this?…could you do this photo as a lenticular so I don’t have to choose?”
Tim: “Hey Damian, don’t you look adorable.”
Damian: ”-tt- Cram it Drake, or I’ll tell Grayson that you still sleep with the Robin uniform he gave you two Christmases ago tucked under your pillow.”
Dick: “You do? Aww Timmy…”
Tim: “You do realise you just made your threat now redundant, Damian?”
Damian: “I do. And it was surprisingly both amusing and worth it.”
Jason: “Hey guys! Look I came wearing my old Robin mask…actually it was your Robin mask, wasn’t it Dickie-bird? I got all your old hand-me-downs, and still do. Although instead of clothes it’s now friends… “
Dick: “What? Oh yeah you bastard! How dare you steal my best friend?”
Jason: “I thought Dan Didio did that?”
Dick: “Yeah, well Roy was one of my best friends as well. You stole him and now I have no best bros!
Damian: “Oh Fuck,Todd, now you made Grayson cry. Aren’t you just a gift to humanity? Why don’t you go—”
Jason: “Would, but your mother already took the liberty.”
[Damian knocks Tim out of the way]
Damian: “You’re going to die again Todd. But this time it’s going to be a lot more painful!”
Jason: “But I haven’t even got to the part where I tell Dick I also got jiggy with his ex-alien girlfriend…”
Dick: “What? Oh no, no, HELL NO!”
Donna: [heavy sigh] “I’m glad I nabbed that photo while they were all still blabbering…”
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Tis the day to spread Robin-Christmas wishes.
(And get a little carried away.)
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everyone!
(And remember to keep your best friends in a safe place or the “Didio who stole the New Earth canon” might make it that they never existed…](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwpukcpbWR1r6h6xgo1_250.jpg)
![via Bishibooru.com
Keeping in with the family theme, a time-paradox Bat-family. (Jason’s:”Why are they looking at us like that? [I’ll cut them]” Oh my God, Damian setting Jason’s cape on fire and Tim’s: “I won’t tell if you dont.” ! Too awesome.)](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwmebeVagI1r6h6xgo1_250.jpg)
![Alfred’s turban-towel and Batman symbol robe for the win! [Tiny Titans #13]
Also Tiny Titans:
Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel. (I know the feeling, so much Bat-stuff to post!)](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvweb57myy1r6h6xgo1_250.jpg)
